Never before have we been in such a volatile, uncertain, complex and ambiguous environment. Governments around the world are running containment strategies, while business and the community are flung into a situation of fear, that in some cases borders on panic.Episode 1 of Change Happens

Host Jenelle McMaster, EY Oceania Markets Leader, discusses leadership in challenging times with company director, author and leadership expert Dr Kirstin FergusonListen now on: Apple PodcastsSpotifyOr where ever you get your favourite podcasts.

Host: Jenelle McMaster is Managing Partner, Oceania Markets at EY.

Guest: Dr Kirstin Ferguson is Deputy Chair, Australian Broadcasting Corporation | Non Executive Director | Keynote Speaker | Author